tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post4074111325061718838..comments2024-01-29T02:08:45.999-08:00Comments on Classic Physique Builder: Workout Frequency for Building a Classic Physique: Challenging Conventional Wisdom!- CPB (Blog and Zine) -http://www.blogger.com/profile/10533269459900243281noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-7209607297779183552010-06-23T10:18:21.326-07:002010-06-23T10:18:21.326-07:00is your site downis your site downAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-23997833826873969922010-06-17T06:52:10.876-07:002010-06-17T06:52:10.876-07:00I feel in most part that single set workouts do no...I feel in most part that single set workouts do not work - Their are those who say they did single set workouts, but truth they most likely did quite a bit of warm-ups sets before one hard single set - Casey Viator the youngest Mr. America claimed to do single sets, but when questioned about his workouts he did one heck of a warm-ups that would be considered a Spartan workout in its self - So as I said in many of my posts that the Classic Physique Builders in that Golden Era did quite a large amount of calisthenics - I feel what my friend Jim once wrote on a post that I submitted is that it takes time and effort to develope a Classic Physique - And that as Jim mentioned before we are looking for that quick fix and the truth it isn't there - Train like a Spartan, Eat like a Spartan, then we will Look a Spartans - So Ibrahim just go at it with everything you got and invest the time and effort and you'll achieve that Classic look ! This isn't about bursting ones bubble, but we have to look at bodybuilding as a athletic event as the former greats did - So lets get busy baby !!!!!!Johnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-8690373970997616502010-06-04T22:39:15.870-07:002010-06-04T22:39:15.870-07:00Hi Ibrahim (and Everyone),
Actually, you don'...Hi Ibrahim (and Everyone),<br /><br />Actually, you don't have to wish that you began with one set as a beginner. It is not too late! Even as an intermediate - anyone can still do it! Just take a week or two lay off. Then come back and do some serious one set 3 day a week, full body training. But you have to do this while utilizing the progressive resistance principle (constantly striving to push up the reps and weights) correctly. You can use such a program for up to 6 months with great benefit I believe! This might really bring your muscle recovery (recuperative powers) up to speed and give you a proper Golden Age foundation and prepare you for future gains using fewer sets!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />CPB (Anthony)- CPB (Blog and Zine) -https://www.blogger.com/profile/10533269459900243281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-88684286477634790812010-06-03T14:19:02.052-07:002010-06-03T14:19:02.052-07:00there was a lot more barbell & dumbbell workou...there was a lot more barbell & dumbbell workouts back in the day - Not all these selective weight machines that we use today (I am guilty too)- That in itself will cause anyone to workout harder using free weights and develope a balance physique - I think with Crossfit & P90X they tap into the Classic Physique Training mode - Exercises that forces the body to exert a lot of effort - Most of the former greats did a lot of gymnastics and a lot of olympic lifting movements (can so one say Crossfit/P90X) So as I said earlier that the new movement is to turn 180 degrees and go back where we began to those glorious years (Classic Physique)Johnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-57744116558786686132010-06-02T17:18:13.876-07:002010-06-02T17:18:13.876-07:00I think your genetics will help define how you rea...I think your genetics will help define how you react to different workout routines.<br /><br />We all know training with splits can work, I have seen it work on my friends.<br /><br />However, I know how Ibrahim felt when his gym owner was questioning him.<br /><br />I (as mentioned awhile ago) follow the charles atlas system, which uses no weights, and works out your body twice a day.<br /><br />At the beach, swimming pool, and sometimes when I am fully clothed I get asked questions about my workouts.<br /><br />No one believes the results I have been able to achieve, and many hit "sticking" points where they can't seem to make progress, while I have worked out for 6 months straight, and I still put on about a pound of muscle a week.<br /><br />It's because these days programs are set up for steroid users, I think that this blog is completely right, it is much better to follow proven methods from a pre-roid era then try to get through the much of today.Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10858803952336847102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-81458568374171956642010-06-02T14:14:34.947-07:002010-06-02T14:14:34.947-07:002nd,
Anthony the point you made with the beginne...2nd, <br /><br />Anthony the point you made with the beginner 1 set with all exercises is one thing i wish i have known a couple of years ago. <br />Anyway, my opinion is that the golden age scene had a clear mindset. And the goals were simple but effective. Now i think the most so called authorities or arm chair experts don´t know what there talking about. No ideals, not why they doing it, no goals...<br /><br />Do you know what a nutritionist said to skinny/average large man in one seminar, in the gym i used to train. He told her that he tried so much over the years but could not build any muscle mass. <br />And she said "well your muscle react better to endurance training, you have to exept that" <br /><br />No wonder that so many people who don´t want be pro bodybuilders turn their backs to this scene. <br />What gives her the right to discourage or set a limit for another person?<br /><br />What i find interesting is that the bodybuilders/athletes from the 30-50 trained in so many ways. That´s one reason why i find them so inspirational. I think they could participate in most sports easily.Ibrahimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-67548607177313032732010-06-02T14:02:49.123-07:002010-06-02T14:02:49.123-07:00Steve and Anthony,
you made good points.
Firs...Steve and Anthony, <br /><br />you made good points. <br /><br />First of all Steve, olympic style weight training is not bad or dangerous. Like Anthony, said no beginner starts today with one set and build from there. I´m pretty sure thats why i did not make any gains back then when i trained at the gym. <br />Charles A. Smith, famous golden age author wrote very good articles on training, including weightlifting. http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/12/preparing-for-olympic-lifts-charles.html<br /><br />This is a great article from him with advice for starters or beginners. Maybe Anthony won´t agree with me but i think olympic lifting will build also a complete physique. Because it´s important to be fit, look strong and be strong. John Grimek, Reg Park, Marvin Eder, Roy Hilligenn all did olympic lifting. I think this style of training is intensive especially for the tendons and ligaments. If you have access to a powerrack do some isometrics, that will strengthen your tendons and ligaments and won´t ruin a "CP" :)Ibrahimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-20877813285065418272010-06-02T10:57:32.795-07:002010-06-02T10:57:32.795-07:00Anthony and all, if we can find time to train 5 to...Anthony and all, if we can find time to train 5 to 6 times a week (1 hour to 1.5 hours) then there is time for a 2 or 3 days per week overall workout(2 hours) - I say tweek our programs - we do not have to lift heavy weights every training session - train hard every session, but make it one session heavy then one session light and I do not mean light workout in the aspect of light intensity but higher reps - UK Steve, I think your Crossfit is a good program but I do agree with you that the pounding with do havoc on your joints - once in awhile fine, but not all the time - Again I bring up that some of the Greats from the Golden Era did in most parts did training & bodybuilding as a full time business and they were in ages of 20's and early 30's -So I feel what we need to do is Prioritize and Manage our training and social life better - We all I am sure have a lot on our plates when it comes to life, so we need to step back and focus what is important - A sloppy schedule for training and a social life will wear on us as well - So we need to prioritize better - keep it simple - my deepness of the dayJohnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-6598315041260121762010-06-02T10:05:17.674-07:002010-06-02T10:05:17.674-07:00Hi UK Steve,
Your point about workout frequency b...Hi UK Steve,<br /><br />Your point about workout frequency brings up the issue of muscle recovery. An interesting question to think about is this:<br /><br /> Why was the 3 day per week full body workout the standard in the Golden Age - when today, so many people don't seem to have the muscle recovery ability to do that?<br /><br />I've been thinking about this recently and have come upon an "answer" that might have some merit. In the Golden Age, ALL the beginners began with one set training for a minimum of one month and usually up to 6 months! How many beginners today begin with 3 day per week, full body programs and train with just 1 set per exercise for up to 6 months? Not many! We all are immediately thrown into split programs with high volume sets.<br /><br />Well...it could very well be that "muscle recovery" is something that muscles need to be trained for. Perhaps one set training for up to 6 months trains the muscles or allows them to build up a quicker muscle recovery time. Then, after the 6 months, when the trainer starts to add sets (2 sets, then 3 sets), the body has adapted and muscle recovery is no problem. I'm actually experimenting with this idea at the moment.<br /><br />But, for those of us who can't seem to recover in time to do 3 day a week full body programs, ask yourself the question - Have you ever tried training on a 3 day per week, full body program using just one set per exercise? If so, how was your muscle recovery then? And then after a few months, did you add a set (and do 2 sets per exercise)? What was your muscle recovery like then? Or did you immediately jump to 3-6 sets or high volume training?<br /><br />Something to think about (and perhaps experiment with)!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />CPB (Anthony)- CPB (Blog and Zine) -https://www.blogger.com/profile/10533269459900243281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-9721279504120480962010-06-01T11:28:57.140-07:002010-06-01T11:28:57.140-07:00Hi,
Another excellent post!
I think experienced ...Hi,<br /><br />Another excellent post!<br /><br />I think experienced trainee's often see through the globo gym industry hype - but unfortunately that is often after a few years (and often you most potentially productive early years) of frustrating wasted effort.<br /><br />I find that when I follow a Steve Reeves / Reg park type program I can only consistently train on a 3 times every two weeks basis.<br /><br />To go off topic slightly I got frustrated with my slow gains with bodybuilding about a year ago and thought "well if I can't look like Reg Park - I might as well just get fit" so I tried doing Crossfit. To my surprise I put on an almost alarming amount of muscular bodyweight in a short space of time - but found that the Olympic lifting / box jumps was playing havoc with my joints. Build wise I was beginning to look like an MMA fighter rather than a classic Physique builder as well.<br /><br />So now I am trying to work out which parts of Crossfit made me build so much muscle - and trying to develop a Classic Physique version!<br /><br />Regards<br />SteveUK Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-34354919151056964442010-06-01T05:04:44.547-07:002010-06-01T05:04:44.547-07:00there has been a movement unfolding where I see at...there has been a movement unfolding where I see at the gyms that more patrons are doing a overall workouts 2 to 3 times a week - Crossfit//300 Spratan Workouts & other overall workouts are taking form - I think maybe things are turning around slowly and I hope this is not a fad - I mentioned to some of the instructors at our Harrisburg//Hummelstown, Pa Golds Gyms what is up with their turnaround concepts - they informed me that a lot of places are trying to go OLD SCHOOL Training and I know you are not crazy with the term old school, but there has been a movement to bring people in with less roid base training routines - So I can say here in Harrisburg, Pa the movement is moving forward to a healthy lifestyle, so let us hope it last....Johnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-15425842086929134932010-06-01T00:39:10.136-07:002010-06-01T00:39:10.136-07:00This post is a "Truth hurts" post for th...This post is a "Truth hurts" post for the present bobybuilding scene. <br /><br />Anthony, i remember when i used to train in a gym i had a talk to the owner. I just started the famous "Super Squats" program because all the other did not seem to work. <br />I was finished with the workout after 40-45 mins maybe a few minutes earlier. Then i went to the changing room and the gym owner was their too. <br /><br />The first question of him was "You´re finished already?" <br />I said "Yeah". Then he asked me what kind of workout i do. <br />I told him 3x8-12 on standing press, bench press, barbell rowing and 1x20 reps squats.( Later I was glad that i did not tell him about breathing squats:) <br /><br />You should have seen his reaction. <br />Then he said that my workout consisted of far to few sets and reps. He said i have to do 5 sets at least to get a good workout. <br />Then he asked why i´m doing 1x20 squats. Because of this question i did not want to tell him about using a weight you can handle for 10 reps and try to do 20 reps with it. I thought when i try to tell him about breathing in the final reps he would get more confused about me. <br />So i just said ok to him. And this was one of the first reasons why i quited my gym membership.Ibrahimnoreply@blogger.com