tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post7197902514287501390..comments2024-01-29T02:08:45.999-08:00Comments on Classic Physique Builder: Ab Training for a Classic Physique: Pre-Roid, Golden Age Approaches!- CPB (Blog and Zine) -http://www.blogger.com/profile/10533269459900243281noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-47870313644285341862010-01-15T10:31:47.032-08:002010-01-15T10:31:47.032-08:00I hope those who read these bloggs comeback to the...I hope those who read these bloggs comeback to them at a later time just in case some one responds - You are I feel right with your comment on spot reducing - if you gain it there you can take it off there - only one slight problem - if someone is on a yo yo diet and they gain quite a lot of weight fat cells can split and now we have 2 fat cells instead of one - that goes as well with muscle cells - that is why I think that the Golden age bodybuilders look good even after the were done competing, they were not on some crazy diets, but on a sensible dietJohnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-13512427729096786942009-10-04T01:20:55.737-07:002009-10-04T01:20:55.737-07:00Hi Johnny G!
Actually, if you think there might b...Hi Johnny G!<br /><br />Actually, if you think there might be something to "spot reducing" or "spot reshaping", you are in good company - because most Golden Agers thought that spot reducing was possible (except for Vince and perhaps a few others). Peary Rader advised that if you needed to lose "around the middle" you should do more abdominal exercises. This advice was fairly common.<br /><br />However, "newer knowledge" has shown that the idea of spot reducing doesn't work quite that way. The body does indeed "spot reduce" but according to its own genetic predisposition and not because of targetted exercise.<br /><br />The general pattern of reducing is the opposite of the pattern of gaining. If I remember correctly, men, in general - acknowledging that there can be individual variation - gain excess weight (fat) first around the abdomen, then hips, then thighs and legs, then chest and arms. <br /><br />So when we start to reduce, weight (fat) comes off in the reverse order. First we lose from our arms and chest, then thighs and legs, then finally hips and abs. So we don't lose fat evenly from all parts of the body at the same time, we "spot reduce" sequentially according to our set genetic pattern.<br /><br />I think it is this genetic "spot reducing" that originally gave people the idea that targetted spot reducing was possible. This was before they realized that genetics determines the pattern of reducing from different body areas, not exercise.<br /><br />I myself have found that when I reduce, it does follow the genetic pattern above. It doesn't matter what I do for my abs, I will lose fat from my arms and chest first, then thighs and legs, and then finally on my hips and abs. I wish this weren't the case! But there it is. <br /><br />I'm not sure that this answers your question completely, but perhaps it gives some 'food for thought'!<br /><br />All the best<br /><br />CPB (Anthony)- CPB (Blog and Zine) -https://www.blogger.com/profile/10533269459900243281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-38133972877783158952009-09-28T10:36:57.636-07:002009-09-28T10:36:57.636-07:00boy oh boy Anthony here I go again - I realize I h...boy oh boy Anthony here I go again - I realize I have no scientific proof, but I do feel you can somewhat spot reduce thru different forms of exercises - I have seen people who run get lean slim legs that were muscular yet the rest of their bodies were not as in shape, as people who bike develope strong legs yet the rest of them were not lean or the blacksmith who has one strong muscular arm and another smaller flabbier arm - some activities will cause your body to reshape its self - Now I know this might not be what some what call spot reducing, but I feel I view it that way - spot reshaping maybe the thing I'm saying- If you can spot gain why not spot reduce - I have seen people loss weight around the midsection thru series of abs workout and yet lose very little weight - again I know that other bodyparts of theirs gained in size, but the theory I feel is some what sound - Do you get where I am coming from, can you elabroteJohnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-38963188038580357132009-09-21T11:55:40.546-07:002009-09-21T11:55:40.546-07:00I think yiu need to look in the mirror and if you ...I think yiu need to look in the mirror and if you have too much fat, adjust your diet and burn more calories and if your abs look good without any direct work , don't do any, if they are soft and protruding do some direct work for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-78770591722650167872009-09-19T14:36:33.187-07:002009-09-19T14:36:33.187-07:00Johnny G,
That theory makes a lot of sense. I mo...Johnny G, <br /><br />That theory makes a lot of sense. I mostly use free weights and focus on keeping my core tight throughout each lift. So I think the ab work I do is probably sufficient along side this other training.<br /><br />AndrewAndrew Stantonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999305660812232075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-41840004024744820752009-09-18T11:08:34.050-07:002009-09-18T11:08:34.050-07:00I would somewhat agree about training abs some - b...I would somewhat agree about training abs some - but the guys from the past used a lot of free weights compared to todays fitness gyms where there are more machines - when you are using good form and great posture you really bring in a lot more stomach muscles - that is why people like Vince & Steve steered away from to much direct abs training - that is again my take on itJohnny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-88389396160400259202009-09-17T13:26:19.746-07:002009-09-17T13:26:19.746-07:00I liked this post a lot. Though I don't know i...I liked this post a lot. Though I don't know if I agree not training abs until you have low enough bf. At least not for me. I feel as if I have better posture when I train abs/core. I am definitely aware that this doesn't mean I am gonna get that six pack any faster. lol<br /><br />AndrewAndrew Stantonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999305660812232075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9086532741566247662.post-36830963937525990442009-09-17T06:50:45.018-07:002009-09-17T06:50:45.018-07:00I felt that Zabo had great abs and maybe a little ...I felt that Zabo had great abs and maybe a little better then Reeves, but not that much better when you consider that he (Zabo) spent half of his workouts training them - I feel this is one of the best articles written so far Anthony - Just plain and simple - get eating right to look right - sometimes the most basic programs of diet & training are the best - Also great pic of ReevesJohnny Gnoreply@blogger.com